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Old 02-11-2019, 07:12 PM   #1
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Default Vivaldi adds MHTML support

Vivaldi browser added support for MHTML, which is a web page archive format that saves the primary HTML page along with support files (ex. photos) into a single file.

This is a feature I had in Opera and have been waiting for it to show up in Vivaldi. I've seen the extensions of MHT and MHTML used for these files. Vivaldi saves them with an MHTML extension. Internet Explorer was able to recognize and open this in a test I just ran.

   
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>> Internet Explorer was able to recognize and open this in a test I just ran.

I'd hope so! Explorer's been able to save MHT for years now. It's the default save-as format in at least some versions of MSIE, in fact.

Firefox still doesn't speak MHT, unfortunately. It'll save the page plus a folder full of support stuff; that puts the file management burden on the wetware. In general, FF seems to be run by folks who have constant internet connections and full faith that those connections will never disappear. Print? Save as PDF? Why would anyone ever want to do THAT???

   
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>> Internet Explorer was able to recognize and open this in a test I just ran.

I'd hope so! Explorer's been able to save MHT for years now. It's the default save-as format in at least some versions of MSIE, in fact.
The point of my test was to see if Vivaldi was saving them correctly. I had cases where Opera created MHT files that IE could not read.

   
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The point of my test was to see if Vivaldi was saving them correctly. I had cases where Opera created MHT files that IE could not read.
Ah, gotcha.

   
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Not so fast!

While the way FF saves web pages is a bit rubbish, not to mention confusing, the print to PDF option is there and has been there for a long time, and works well.

You can also print using a, you know, printer as well!

   
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bo: the print to PDF option is there and has been there for a long time, and works well.
Really? There is an explicit "print to pdf" option?

I do a lot of print to pdf in Firefox (my most current FF version is 52 as I have significant problems with the decisions Mozilla has made on add-ons) but, that's because I have Acrobat (8) installed so I have a PDF printer instance--or at least that's what I've always thought.


Can you give me the steps you take in FF to print to pdf? Thanks...



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With the page you want to print open - Ctrl P/Cmnd P (depending on OS) - select print to file - change file name and/or destination by clicking on the button next to "File:".

Alternatively you can open the menu with the hamburger button at the right hand side and select print, that way you get a preview.

   
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With the page you want to print open - Ctrl P/Cmnd P (depending on OS) - select print to file - change file name and/or destination by clicking on the button next to "File:".

Alternatively you can open the menu with the hamburger button at the right hand side and select print, that way you get a preview.
Printing to file produces a file intended for whatever printer driver you've chosen, not necessarily a PDF. Or if you don't have a PDF driver, not ever a PDF, near as I can tell.

   
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On older versions of FF you needed an add-on, the newer ones have a built in PDF reader.

I don't recall installing anything to make this work, at least not in the last few years. This is on both Windows 10 and Fedora Linux.

   
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On older versions of FF you needed an add-on, the newer ones have a built in PDF reader.

I don't recall installing anything to make this work, at least not in the last few years. This is on both Windows 10 and Fedora Linux.
Built-in reader, yes. But that presumes you've opened a PDF and want to print IT.
And on Win7 as well, btw.

But that doesn't help when you're looking at a web page and want to make a PDF *of* it. I'd print to the Adobe PDF driver, but that gives me the PDF equivalent of what FF would print to paper. As often as not, trash.

I usually just copy/paste the URL into Chrome and PDF from there.

   
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