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Old 06-25-2022, 12:31 PM   #1
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Default Windows 10 and MS Office

I have Microsoft Office 2010 Home & Student on a NuVision 8" Windows 10 tablet. I bought the tablet from Amazon as a venture into Windows tablets, and I've been blown away by how far it has exceeded my expectations. BUT ... it's 32-bit only.

Microsoft Office 2010 no longer gets any support or security patches. I've found a source for an affordable copy of Office 2021, but I'm not sure if it includes both 64-bit and 32-bit versions. Instructions suggest that I would need to uninstall Office 2010 before installing Office 2021. Because of Microsoft's product key registrations, I don't want to have the 2021 installation abort because it's a 32-bit system, and then find that I can't reinstall Office 2010 because the product key is "already in use."

If I create a system restore point before uninstalling Office 2010, would a system restore bring back the Office 2010 that I uninstalled?
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Old 06-26-2022, 08:18 AM   #2
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>> I've found a source for an affordable copy of Office 2021, but I'm not sure if it includes both 64-bit and 32-bit versions.

Pretty sure all the versions of Office since 2016 and maybe 2013 have included both.

>>Instructions suggest that I would need to uninstall Office 2010 before installing Office 2021.

Yes. You can, with a few precautions, install multiple verisons of Office 2003 and earlier, and IIRC one or more of the earlier versions PLUS 2007 but not multiple versions of any of the 2007 and later versions.

>> Because of Microsoft's product key registrations, I don't want to have the 2021 installation abort because it's a 32-bit system, and then find that I can't reinstall Office 2010 because the product key is "already in use."

The installer should detect a 32-bit Windows installation and install the correct Office version; if you (I forget how, but in this case it doesn't matter 'cause you won't) force a 64-bit Office install, it'll refuse.

As to the keys, they're different for the two versions, yes? So the worry here is "If I remove 2010 then install it again later, will it bark at me?" Unlikely. If you were installing to a differen computer, it might well; hardware changes can cause it to balk. But worst case, you may have to phone the number provided and explain the situation. Same version of Office, same computer, same person ... no reason to refuse you.

>> If I create a system restore point before uninstalling Office 2010, would a system restore bring back the Office 2010 that I uninstalled?

I know that's how it's SUPPOSED to work but having never done it, I can't answer.

   
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Old 06-28-2022, 01:35 PM   #3
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woody: If I create a system restore point before uninstalling Office 2010, would a system restore bring back the Office 2010 that I uninstalled?
I've never found Windows Restore to be at all useful but, that may have changed with Win10 (hahahahahahaha!!!!--sorry...I just can't help it...'-}})...




I don't know anything really about tablets so this may not be a viable suggestion but with that stated...

I've been quite pleased with the backup/drive images I've created (and then used to restore) for various systems I work with using Macrium Reflect free. I've attached a PDF (tlbreflectnotes.pdf) of my notes on using Reflect free in case it might be useful--note that the notes were written using various Win7/Pro systems--desktop and laptops--but I found the same process works just fine in Win8.1/Pro (Win8.1/Pro laptop bought after I'd written the notes) so I would think the same would hold true for Win10. Also note that I was using Reflect free version 6 and 7 and the current version is 8 but again, the basic process should be the same...



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I have used Macrium Reflect to clone a hard drive onto an SSD drive to speed up my desktop computers. For that it works great.

For the tablet / Office update? Probably not. This is very much an entry-level tablet. It shipped with Windows 10, but the built-in storage (some sort of SSD or other solid state gizmo) is only 32 GB, and that got filled up pretty quickly. So I have created a \Programs directory on the 64 GB microSD external storage card, and I have the larger programs (including Office 2010) installed there. But I'm pretty certain the registry is on the built-in C:\ drive.
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Back again. Have a look here:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...2-23adc4716658

One of the more relevant bits:

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The 64-bit version is installed by default unless Office detects you already have a 32-bit version of Office (or a stand-alone Office app such as Project or Visio) installed. In this case, the 32-bit version of Office will be installed instead.

To change from a 32-bit version to a 64-bit version or vice versa, you need to uninstallOffice first (including any stand-alone Office apps you have such as Project of Visio). Once the uninstall is complete, sign in again to www.office.com and select Other install options, choose the language and version you want (64 or 32-bit), and then select Install. (See Install Visio or Install Project if you need to reinstall those stand-alone apps.)

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From this, I derive: If you just let the installer choose, it'll install 64-bit unless there's a reason not to. Your 32-bit Windows, for example.

   
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Better yet, that tells me I can install the new version alongside the old version, then delete the old version if/when the new version has been tested and demonstrated to run properly on that computer.

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Better yet, that tells me I can install the new version alongside the old version, then delete the old version if/when the new version has been tested and demonstrated to run properly on that computer.

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I don't believe that's correct. We haven't been able to install multiple versions of Office on the same PC since 2007 came out. Nor can we mix "bitnesses".

   
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I don't believe that's correct. We haven't been able to install multiple versions of Office on the same PC since 2007 came out. Nor can we mix "bitnesses".
Hmmm ...

I guess I'll just have to try it and find out.
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I thought that Macrium used on a tablet was probably a bit farfetched but figured it was worth at least a passing thought...'-}}



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Your report is due on Monday, Mr. Woody, and will comprise 75% of your grade for the quarter.

   
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