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Old 11-18-2010, 04:41 AM   #1
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I know there's been a big discussion about Microsoft Office and Open Office, but I had to use MS Office recently and I could not believe it.

No keyboard shortcut in Excel for Deleting (Rows, Columns)?
No shortcut for Paste Special?
No Revert item in the File menu?

OK, I know I can create shortcuts in OS X, but this is basic UI stuff. And this is after 5 mins of basic use.

This is Office 2004. Are the newer versions the same?
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Old 11-18-2010, 06:16 AM   #2
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For delete, right click in the row column (the one with the row number) and I think it comes up there. That should be more convenient than a keyboard shortcut.
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And it seems to forget the Undo History. Haven't quite worked out on what basis. I'm only doing Find & Replace, sort, copy and past into other apps.

It's not that there aren't ways to do these things. It just I would have expected more from a supposedly flagship product.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:53 AM   #4
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I hated Office 2007 when we got it in. A major redesign of the interface left me often wondering how to do simple things ... like save or print. It took some time to get used to, and I still hate it, but only some of the time.

But you have to deal with occasional shakeups to your brain process to advance, or you will be like all those old timers who still insist that the screen bottom menu system of Lotus 1-2-3 is the only way to get around on a computer.
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Old 11-18-2010, 05:33 PM   #5
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The Windows versions are the flagship product. The Mac version of Office has always played second fiddle and as far as I know, has never had anywhere near the number of keyboard shortcuts the Windows versions have had.

   
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I'm only doing Find & Replace, sort, copy and past into other apps.
In Excel, it can't even find a name (listed several times) on a spreadsheet. Shameful.

   
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Are you sure that this isn't because you have a cell selected, and haven't pressed Enter to commit it (well, that's how the Windows versions work.) I've been caught out like that!
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For delete, right click in the row column (the one with the row number) and I think it comes up there. That should be more convenient than a keyboard shortcut.
Not on a Mac, because it's a two-hand operation (Control-click).

   
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Macs have had right click mice as standard for some years; and right-click on 2-button mice was supported since System 8 or so.

I don't mind new interfaces and new methods. But lacking fairly standard things that you would expect, which are implemented in OpenOffice, I'm surprised at.
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Not on a Mac, because it's a two-hand operation (Control-click).
Only if you insist on using one of those pretty but flawed & crippled mice that StevieJ wants to sell you. With a two button mouse, right click works fine and has for years.

Do it right. Get one with a scroll wheel too. They're quite handy.

   
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