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Old 10-17-2005, 03:02 PM   #1
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I have just installed PagePlus 11 and am delighted to discover that it recognizes (like Word 9) any Unicode glyph that is available in the font used. FrameMaker 7.1 has never heard of Unicode, and even InDesign 3 won't recognize a glyph if its code is in the PUA.

PagePlus 11 appears to have other virtues that I haven't investigated yet, but for a £100 program it seems pretty good.

   
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One caution - PagePlus won't handle Arabic, Hebrew or other right-to-left languages properly but it is happy with any latin-based or cyrillic language plus Greek and left-to-right Indian languages.

Some of its bundled fonts contain the eastern and central european characters.

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InDesign 3 won't recognize a glyph if its code is in the PUA

I'm glad to report that I was maligning InDesign: I find that it does recognize all the glyphs it finds at any code point. The empty boxes earlier are inexplicable though. And why does InDesign report a font missing that I didn't use and which does not exist on my computer?

   
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And why does InDesign report a font missing that I didn't use and which does not exist on my computer?
Might the font be a default OS font you've removed from your system at some point? It's usually a basic OS font that layout apps use in their default style sheets. Unless you've changed the font specified in the default style sheet, it'll continue to be listed as missing.

   
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And why does InDesign report a font missing that I didn't use and which does not exist on my computer?
Any particular font?

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Old 10-28-2005, 05:18 AM   #6
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Elyse:

It's usually a basic OS font that layout apps use in their default style sheets

This 'font', 'MS Shell—' (I can't quite read the name) is not in any Microsoft font list, is not one I've acquired at any time, and isn't specified in my (Word) style sheet. It pops up as 'missing' every time I open the file InDesign. It's puzzling, but not important, as far as I know.

   
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Shane:

See my reply to Elyse.

   
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Very strange. You did say this was a document that has always lived on this machine where it was created and has never made a trip through any other, yes? If it could have visited another machine (maybe at a print shop), perhaps it inadvertently was saved after opening and somehow the font's info was added from that system.

Feels like I'm grasping at straws now, but it's the only other theory I have. Baffling.

   
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Elyse:

You did say this was a document that has always lived on this machine

Yes, I did. The file I imported is a Word file, and although Word sometimes puts in fonts that I haven't actively used (Word has an extra paragraph mark for frames, for instance), it's inevitably one tha does exist, or should exist, on my machine.

The only explanation that occurs to me is that InDesign 3 has misinterpreted the font name. It doesn't matter, as I can tell it to substitute one of the fonts that are used.

   
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