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Old 07-02-2022, 02:17 PM   #1
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Default Vivaldi email client

It looks Vivaldi email client is out of beta. Also, feed reader. And calendar. All integrated into the browser. I'm not up to testing this. Sooooo...

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Old 07-02-2022, 06:12 PM   #2
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I'm not a fan of trying to cram everything into one program. I'm more than happy using a browser to browse, and an e-mail client to e-mail.

THe problem with every "does it all" tool I have ever encountered is that they never work as well for any of the tasks they perform as tools that were designed for the specific task.
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Old 07-03-2022, 12:37 AM   #3
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Tried the email client but failed to get it to work. Might give it a second chance later.

   
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Old 07-03-2022, 01:18 PM   #4
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Interesting...I've never knew they offered a mail option...I have a (very) vague memory of trying Vivaldi but not liking it for reasons I no longer remember...I should check it out again...


I like their webpage...a nice mix of information and cheek...'-}}





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Old 07-04-2022, 05:50 AM   #5
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The email bit is something that used to be available in Opera - something that at the time worked very well.

Jon Stephenson von Tetzchner was co-founder of both Opera and Vivaldi, hence there might some common thinking behind the two.

As for using different applications for browsing and emailing, I'm all for using what works best. Currently that's Vivaldi and Thunderbird on my laptop, and Vivaldi and Edison on my phone. But that's me.

   
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bo: hence there might some common thinking behind the two.
While it's been a long time so I may be misremembering, I've always thought there was a link between the two...



>>I'm all for using what works best. Currently that's Vivaldi and Thunderbird on my laptop, and Vivaldi and Edison on my phone. But that's me.


I also go for what works best for me and I try not to presume that what works for me, would work for anyone else...'-}}


A few months ago, I discovered that there are portable versions of Thunderbird and since I've fallen in love with using portables for Firefox and Pale Moon (my browsers of choice and also my choice to use older versions of Firefox because mozilla keeps mucking up Firefox), I went looking for my version of TBird (3.1.15) in portable form and found it at uptodown.com --Windows-based TBird portable link and this is an excellent site of not only current versions but also older versions of software both portable and non-portable and I've never had any issues with virii/malware/crapware in anything I've downloaded from them.


I always do custom software installs to a separate software partition on my system (desktop) and I'd set up my original TBird with a custom mail folder on the same partition--so much easier to backup than the crappy Windows "Users" folders! I decided to keep that custom mail folder when I installed the TBird portable. This has come in handy because while I've recognize that my TBird version is very old, it still works just fine but for a number of reasons I installed a more current version of TBird portable (38.7.2) which is the first TBird version to work with the OAuth crap--I wanted to see how it worked. I set up the new TBird to also use my custom mail folder so I can open either TBird portable 3.1.15 or TBird portable 38.7.2 and all my mail is in both since they are both accessing the same custom mail folder.


I haven't had a chance to take a closer look at Vivaldi. The fact that it appears to use Chrome as a base is not attractive to me primarily because it's my understanding (which may indeed be incorrect) that I won't be able to control updates--NOTHING!!! updates on my system unless I allow it so autoupdating is an anathema to me.



Does Vivaldi (browser) all full user control of updates?





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A few months ago, I discovered that there are portable versions of Thunderbird and since I've fallen in love with using portables for Firefox and Pale Moon (my browsers of choice and also my choice to use older versions of Firefox because mozilla keeps mucking up Firefox), I went looking for my version of TBird (3.1.15) in portable form and found it at uptodown.com --Windows-based TBird portable link and this is an excellent site of not only current versions but also older versions of software both portable and non-portable and I've never had any issues with virii/malware/crapware in anything I've downloaded from them.
I use Waterfox Classic as my browser of choice since Firefox went nutso awhile back. It does well 95% of the time but, every once in awhile, I encounter a web site that demands a Chrome-based browser, and for that I reluctantly fire up Firefox.

But Waterfox is 64-bit only, so I can't run that on the tablet. I have Pale Moon on that, but I'm not at all happy with it. It doesn't run any of my Waterfox add-ons, and the ad-blocker that comes with Pale Moon doesn't work. I use the tablet very infrequently and, even so, every time I open Pale Moon I get frustrated. I will probably end up removing it and installing Firefox.
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Vivaldi doesn't force updates on me.

   
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woody: I use Waterfox Classic as my browser of choice since Firefox went nutso awhile back.
I've considered Waterfox but never gotten around to trying it...



>>I encounter a web site that demands a Chrome-based browser, and for that I reluctantly fire up Firefox.

Did you try using a different User Agent? If you remember the url, I'd be happy to do some testing for you. Some sites don't seem to see the UA setting or the site has been deliberately coded to ignore the UA but a good majority of the time setting a UA gets around crap website design...




>>I have Pale Moon on that, but I'm not at all happy with it. It doesn't run any of my Waterfox add-ons,

Which version of Pale Moon are you running?

There's been a shift in the last 3-4 months since Tobin left in a huff and Pale Moon 31.x went "back" to allowing Firefox addons so, if the PM version installed on the tablet is in the 29-ish range, look for 31.x--there is no Pale Moon version 30 as it was "lost" in the Tobin bruhaha. Pale Moon





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andrew: Vivaldi doesn't force updates on me.
Excellent!!! I'll have to try it soon...fingers crossed there might be a portable version...


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