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marlene
01-31-2006, 02:44 PM
A colleague asked me for help indentifying the fonts shown in the attached image. (It's a scan from a book that was published in the late 1800s.)

His client wants him to create the full effect with the type and shadows.

First thing I thought of was that guy who did the fabulous "cigar box label"-style graphics -- someone here must know who I mean, it was mentioned in the forum a couple years ago. I thought I had bookmarked his site (since I bookmark darn near everything else), but can't find it. (And I can't remember if all his lettering was done by hand, anyway.)

Anyone remember who the guy is? Or have any other leads on where to find appropriate fonts?

mxh

terrie
01-31-2006, 02:57 PM
I don't have a clue but that's a really cool cover...I love all the embellishments...

Terrie

John Nolan
01-31-2006, 06:54 PM
Not a match, certainly, but here's a few suggestions:
Durham Abbey
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/nicksfonts/durham-abbey-nf/
P22 Victorian Swash
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/p22/victorian-swash/
I'd also browse through the offerings from Nick's fonts and Solotype:
http://www.myfonts.com/browse/foundry/solotype/

ktinkel
02-01-2006, 06:51 AM
First thing I thought of was that guy who did the fabulous "cigar box label"-style graphics …Do you mean Gerard Huerta (http://www.gerardhuerta.com/lettering/display.htm)? He is a fabulous illustrator who works with typographic images.

I rummaged through Nicolete Gray’s Nineteenth Century Ornamental Typefaces and Rob Roy Kelly’s American Wood Type 1828–1900, with no spectacular luck. The design looks to be 1800 to 1905 by the style (but your friend already knows that), but the particular letters do not show up in either book.

Besides, the title was almost surely engraved (or hand-lettered). The characters do not match, for one thing. I saw nothing even remotely like the type used for the authors’s names.

I’d bet the whole thing was engraved or otherwise hand-done, without fonts (except perhaps the type below the heavy rule).

Best bet for duplicating the cover would be to get the book, scan it in, and clean it up. Copies of The National Capital (http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=Stilson+Hutchins&y=10&tn=The+National+Capital+Past+and+Present&x=47) are available at ABE Books for around $30 and at least one copy is described as having a clean cover. The bad news is that it is “Bound in green cloth with elaborate red and gold decoration.” An interesting scanning project.

Let us know how that turns out.

marlene
02-01-2006, 11:25 PM
Do you mean Gerard Huerta? He is a fabulous illustrator who works with typographic images.

Yes! That's the one I was thinking of. Although it doesn't help with the problem at hand, it was driving me crazy not to be able to find that web site.

I agree that the book cover was engraved or hand-lettered. The client doesn't want to re-create that book cover, apparently he wants to create a new piece using similar lettering. (Not my client so I don't know all the details.)

I do seem to remember seeing some very ornate typefaces that might work (in addition to the typefaces John already suggested), I just can't remember where I saw them. But it's possible I just hallucinated them anyway.

mxh

mxh

Norbert
02-03-2006, 09:02 AM
http://www.acmedigital.net/letterheads/letterheadfontsco.jpg
The folks at Letterhead Fonts Co. have many designs suitable for emulating old billhead and cigar box lettering.

http://www.acmedigital.net/letterheads/hearstclothing.gif
Euphoria has a similar look and interesting alternates.
http://www.letterheadfonts.com/contributors/denisebayers/euphoria.shtml

Argentine, though heavier in weight, has several unique alternates as well.
http://www.letterheadfonts.com/contributors/mikestowe/argentine.shtml
http://www.acmedigital.net/letterheads/argentinespecial.gif

Ricardo Rousselot is a master of the handlettered "cigar label" style, having done many real ones. You client may not be interested in custom work, but it is well worth visiting for inspiration.
http://www.grupoerre-rousselot.com/grupoerre.html

marlene
02-03-2006, 11:53 AM
Fabulous font source! Thank you too much!

Although I must say the gallery (of projects in which Letterheadfonts typefaces were used) makes me feel very inadequate.

The Rousselot site is also amazing.

mxh

ktinkel
02-03-2006, 11:56 AM
The folks at Letterhead Fonts Co. have many designs suitable for emulating old billhead and cigar box lettering. Euphoria … Argentine, though heavier in weight, has several unique alternates as well.

Ricardo Rousselot is a master of the handlettered "cigar label" style …Yum! What great references. I can’t imagine ever needing that sort of work, but I am sure glad to find out about it. Thanks for the links.